Mega-Church Pastors Speak on Lavish Lifestyles

I stole this from Monday Morning Insight cuz' I liked it. Let me know what you think.


Mega-Church Pastors Speak on Lavish Lifestyles

Here's an interesting article that quotes two mega-church, very financially successful mega-church pastors: Rick Warren and Joel Osteen. The story starts out by saying that Joel Osteen lives a remarkably modest lifestyle when compared to his financial success (he's not taken a salary for a couple years from his church, lives in the same house that he lived in 13 years ago, and until recently, still drove the car given to him by his late father). Warren has been a pretty good example (in my mind, anyway) of responsible living with great wealth. Here are two quotes that I found interesting from the two, when asked about the congressional investigation of a group of wealthy mega-church pastors:

Rick Warren: “The opulent lifestyles of televangelists make me sick… Success in any area often creates a spirit of entitlement — ‘I deserve this’ — that is the exact opposite of servant leadership.”

Joel Osteen: “While I never like to hear negative things about friends and other ministers, I choose to believe the very best in them.”


Osteen does go on to say this though: “I do believe that God wants us to be blessed, to have good marriages, to have peace in our minds, to have health, to have money to pay our bills. I think God wants us to excel. But everyone isn’t going to be rich — if we’re talking about money.”

Go to Monday Morning Insight to read the rest of the Article.

Comments

Anonymous said…
joel olsteen doesnt have to get a salary from his church he gets paid millions from his book deals and his tarveling engagements.
Anonymous said…
jesus had a banker with him always . prosperity is not evil.
Carole Turner said…
Jesus had a banker? What verse is that?

Your right about Joel, it even says that in the article, did you go read the entire article?

Prosperity is not evil,your right, but it must be in line with scripture:

1 Timothy 3:3
not given to drunkenness, not violent but gentle, not quarrelsome, not a lover of money.

1 Timothy 6:10
For the love of money is a root of all kinds of evil. Some people, eager for money, have wandered from the faith and pierced themselves with many griefs.

2 Timothy 3:2
People will be lovers of themselves, lovers of money, boastful, proud, abusive, disobedient to their parents, ungrateful, unholy,

Hebrews 13:5
Keep your lives free from the love of money and be content with what you have, because God has said, "Never will I leave you; never will I forsake you."

1 Peter 5:2
Be shepherds of God's flock that is under your care, serving as overseers—not because you must, but because you are willing, as God wants you to be; not greedy for money, but eager to serve;
Ron said…
"The Spirit of Entitlements". Huh...I think that attitude applies to poor as well as the wealthy.
Carole Turner said…
I don't think that applies to the poor. I work with them regularly and I see humility, need, depression, oppression, etc. but not a spirit of entitlement. BUT even if I did, Jesus didn't tell me to judge them, he just said to feed, clothe and visit them, so that is what/who I have to keep my eyes on.

As fas as Joel Osteen and Rick Warren are concerned, I was thrilled to read this article. I agree with what the quotes from both of them.
Anonymous said…
JUDAS was the "banker" you know. He had control of the money.
That comment made no sense at all.
Judas also made money off of Jesus and he never got to spend it.
He probably would have wrote a book about Jesus like these other people had he lived.
Anonymous said…
read John 12:3-6 regarding the supposed banker who traveled with Jesus
verse 6 is good
"he (Judas)did not say this because he cared about the poor but because he was a THIEF; as keeper of the money bag, he used it to HELP himself to what was put into it."
Carole Turner said…
Ok, I think there are two "anonymous" here but either way, I didn't take "keeper of the money bag" as being a banker. Banker today means, leanind, intrest, loans, investments, I took the scripture as well, he held the money that people gave Jesus.

Anyway, I stil don't get your comments. I will just say glad you came by and visited and I think we disagree but that's ok.

Have a great day.
Anonymous said…
Carole is right. Judas did hold the money that people gave to Jesus.
Robin said…
All of your scripture references had to do with the LOVE of money. Just because someone is wealthy doesn't mean they are a lover of money. Some middle class and poor people are lovers of money because they want it and think it will solve all of their problems. Thank God for wealthy people who are able to fund missionaries and ministries like the Center of Hope and other places that reach out to the less fortunate.

The key is to view money as an instrument or vehicle. We are to seek out ways to bless others and use wealth to advance the Kingdom of God. We each must know what God has called us to do and be obedient to do it. Only God can judge the motive and intentions of a person. Only God knows what is in the heart. Some people will do alot in JESUS name but he will say, "Depart from me you workers of iniquity, I never KNEW you." LORD HAVE MERCY

Robin
Carole Turner said…
The 2 times Jesus told someone "Depart from me.." was when they were NOT feeding the poor, clothing the naked etc AND when they were trying to look spiritual by casting out devils, miracles, etc.. but had no relationship with him.

Matthew 25:35 For I was hungry and you gave me something to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me something to drink, I was a stranger and you invited me in, 36I needed clothes and you clothed me, I was sick and you looked after me, I was in prison and you came to visit me.'

37"Then the righteous will answer him, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry and feed you, or thirsty and give you something to drink? 38When did we see you a stranger and invite you in, or needing clothes and clothe you? 39When did we see you sick or in prison and go to visit you?'

40"The King will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did for one of the least of these brothers of mine, you did for me.'

41"Then he will say to those on his left, 'Depart from me, you who are cursed, into the eternal fire prepared for the devil and his angels. 42For I was hungry and you gave me nothing to eat, I was thirsty and you gave me nothing to drink, 43I was a stranger and you did not invite me in, I needed clothes and you did not clothe me, I was sick and in prison and you did not look after me.'

44"They also will answer, 'Lord, when did we see you hungry or thirsty or a stranger or needing clothes or sick or in prison, and did not help you?'

45"He will reply, 'I tell you the truth, whatever you did not do for one of the least of these, you did not do for me.'

Matthew 7:22
Many will say to me on that day, 'Lord, Lord, did we not prophesy in your name, and in your name drive out demons and perform many miracles?' 23Then I will tell them plainly, 'I never knew you. Away from me, you evildoers!'


Proverbs 30:8
Keep falsehood and lies far from me; give me neither poverty nor riches, but give me only my daily bread.

Luke 8:14
The seed that fell among thorns stands for those who hear, but as they go on their way they are choked by life's worries, riches and pleasures, and they do not mature.
Anonymous said…
I think it is good that this investigation is happening. I hope it trickels down to all of the Christian churches/leaders, regardless of size. It does seem that their is a lot of disparity between certain church leaders and their subordinate leaders and parishioners regarding standard of living. I think there is too much hero worship for leadership, instead of Godly respect.

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